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Old June 17, 2015   #1
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Default Novelty Foliage Tomatoes ???

Hi all ,

I was wondering if in your travels you were aware of any Tomatoes that had

Novelty , different type of foliage ........


Foliage just different enough to make the plant stand out a bit ....

I think even Silvery Fir is in this group

Variegated Tomato also


Angora etc.
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Old June 17, 2015   #2
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Anna Russian is wispy...
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Old June 17, 2015   #3
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Joseph has said wispy varieties, but there many hundreds of varieties that have wispy droopy leaves , so Joseph, I don't consider wispy ones to stand out. But Black Bear, if you haven't grown a wispy one, most are hearts, then please do so.

PErhaps this link might help;

http://faq.gardenweb.com/discussions...-tomato-leaves

Some pictures are missing in the above link but that only happened when Houzz recently bought out Garden Web. But certain variety names are given as examples in each category.

Then there's Lutescent, nee Honor Bright and while Tania says the initial foliage is yellow it turns to green, but most of us who have grown it have found that that sickly looking foliage persists.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Lutescent

To date I've grown about 4,000 plus different varieties and I think I've seen almost all the wierd ones, whoops I just remembered another one that stands out, I'll go fetch it now

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Stick

I can't think of any variety I ever grew that I did so b'c it was so different it stood out, other than the one I just linked to, Stick/

There are also variations of angora ones, rugose ones, RL ones and PL ones and variegated ones as well, but IMO nothing that would make the variations stand out as single varieties.

And I know I'm not remembering a few other varieties that have persistent yellow foliage, so perhaps some can speak to those.

How many different varieties have you grown to date, and I ask b'c I think you are perhaps the first person I know of who wants to actually seek out what some refer to as novelty ones as to foliage.

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Joseph has said wispy varieties, but there many hundreds of varieties that have wispy droopy leaves , so Joseph, I don't consider wispy ones to stand out. But Black Bear, if you haven't grown a wispy one, most are hearts, then please do so.

PErhaps this link might help;

http://faq.gardenweb.com/discussions...-tomato-leaves

Some pictures are missing in the above link but that only happened when Houzz recently bought out Garden Web. But certain variety names are given as examples in each category.

Then there's Lutescent, nee Honor Bright and while Tania says the initial foliage is yellow it turns to green, but most of us who have grown it have found that that sickly looking foliage persists.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Lutescent

To date I've grown about 4,000 plus different varieties and I think I've seen almost all the wierd ones, whoops I just remembered another one that stands out, I'll go fetch it now

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Stick

I can't think of any variety I ever grew that I did so b'c it was so different it stood out, other than the one I just linked to, Stick/

There are also variations of angora ones, rugose ones, RL ones and PL ones and variegated ones as well, but IMO nothing that would make the variations stand out as single varieties.

And I know I'm not remembering a few other varieties that have persistent yellow foliage, so perhaps some can speak to those.

How many different varieties have you grown to date, and I ask b'c I think you are perhaps the first person I know of who wants to actually seek out what some refer to as novelty ones as to foliage.

Carolyn
Thanks Carolyn
awesome tip...

I was going to add Stick to the list I forgot .

I am growing them now and have not outgrown the novelty and possibilities they have.

The "Crinkly " leaves look like tufts or pom poms at the nodes .

They would make good props for a Sci-Fi Movie.


I have grown the variegated .

.. Silvery Fir of course ....

an 'angora" a long time ago .

I think it might be neat to have a few extra that stand out some how from the typical.

I am not so sure about looking sickly foliage ...but maybe having some in a grouping to show the wide expression of Tomato including the different foliage would be cool idea .

Don't get me wrong they have to produce as well . This is Tomatoville ... the production comes before the aesthetic considerations here ha ha ha
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All of the other Solanum species in the tomato subgroup have different foliage. Unfortunately, most of them except S. pimpinellifolium have inedible fruit.
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Velvet Red cherry...has fuzzy foliage...fruit has fuzz too but it wipes right off.
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Default Golden Glow has striking yellow leaves

Golden Glow variety

has Striking "fluorescent" yellow leaves I have no pictures or source of seeds
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Silvery Fir Tree.
Its carrot like leaves are very unique . You cannot miss not identifying it .
I grew one last year.
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Yes, so is Carrot-like. Very ornamental, and good producer too... (but was relatively late for us last year)
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Just a few comments.

Velvet Red is also known as Angora Supersweet, the person who bred the original changed the name

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Velvet_Red

And no, I had no fuzzy fruits for either one as Tania noted.

Silvery Fir Tree and Carrot like.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Carrot-Like

I bought my seeds for Carrot-like in the 80's from Seeds Blum, when Silvery Fir Tree was not even known,

There is a thread here somewhere at Tville where Andrey from Belarus commented about them and said, as best I recall, that they were not the same.

About species foliage that have edible fruits.

Yes, S. pimpinellifolium, we know it as currant tomatoes, does and yes, I've grown a lot of currant ones and I do like them some better than others.

Another species is S. cheesmanii and it has edible fruits as well;

http://tgrc.ucdavis.edu/key.aspx

Click on cheesmani there and you get:

http://tgrc.ucdavis.edu/Data/Acc/tax....%20cheesmanii

Finally the connection between S Cheesmani and Galapagos Turtles.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...apagos+turtles

And Finally finally finally

I had asked Amy Goldman when she went to the Galapagos Islands to bring me back seeds for cheesmani, since I knew it was salt tolerant, I knew about the connection with turtles and I knew it was edible, the tomato fruits, not the turtles, at least for me.

She brought back actual fruits and sent them to me, I saved seeds directly , with no processing and germination was 100%, But ASAP I knew they weren't cheesmanii b'c these were red, and that's when I contacted Dr. Chatelet at the TGRC and since I knew the island they came from he was able to tell me that they were a stable interspecies cross, and that was later borne out by some DNA analysis done in England.

Tania noted that Amy's daughter went with her, but no, Sara didn't, but when I sent my saved seeds back to Amy she did name it after her daughter.

I think it's a great variety, you can see that others say the same, and well worth growing.

All for now,

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Just a few comments.

Velvet Red is also known as Angora Supersweet, the person who bred the original changed the name

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Velvet_Red

And no, I had no fuzzy fruits for either one as Tania noted.

Silvery Fir Tree and Carrot like.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Carrot-Like

I bought my seeds for Carrot-like in the 80's from Seeds Blum, when Silvery Fir Tree was not even known,

There is a thread here somewhere at Tville where Andrey from Belarus commented about them and said, as best I recall, that they were not the same.

About species foliage that have edible fruits.

Yes, S. pimpinellifolium, we know it as currant tomatoes, does and yes, I've grown a lot of currant ones and I do like them some better than others.

Another species is S. cheesmanii and it has edible fruits as well;

http://tgrc.ucdavis.edu/key.aspx

Click on cheesmani there and you get:

http://tgrc.ucdavis.edu/Data/Acc/tax....%20cheesmanii

Finally the connection between S Cheesmani and Galapagos Turtles.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...apagos+turtles

And Finally finally finally

I had asked Amy Goldman when she went to the Galapagos Islands to bring me back seeds for cheesmani, since I knew it was salt tolerant, I knew about the connection with turtles and I knew it was edible, the tomato fruits, not the turtles, at least for me.

She brought back actual fruits and sent them to me, I saved seeds directly , with no processing and germination was 100%, But ASAP I knew they weren't cheesmanii b'c these were red, and that's when I contacted Dr. Chatelet at the TGRC and since I knew the island they came from he was able to tell me that they were a stable interspecies cross, and that was later borne out by some DNA analysis done in England.

Tania noted that Amy's daughter went with her, but no, Sara didn't, but when I sent my saved seeds back to Amy she did name it after her daughter.

I think it's a great variety, you can see that others say the same, and well worth growing.

All for now,

Carolyn
oooo ahhh ... salt tolerance ......

that brings up a whole other potential thread for future culture needs

most interesting stuff

Thanks Carolyn
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And while I referred to folks who commented about Sara's Galapagos in my above post, I forgot to give the link:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Sara%27s_Galapagos

The link had been saved with the usual key strokes and then stuff here at home happened, like Martha, who prepares meals for me, accidentally blowing up some eggs she was boiling for hard boiled eggs, the noise was LOUD when they blew up and I totally forgot to link to it.

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Default Angora Super sweet found aka

OMG just found a packet of Angora Super sweet...was a gift

from an old Tomatofest order ......

People ...you should organize your seeds better ! ...ha ha ha

You never know what is there !
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Default Fuzzy Wuzzy and Bonte Tigeret

Fuzzy wuzzy has wooly grey blue foliage with Fuzzy golden striped fruits


Bonte tigret has unusual green-yellow ruguse foliage with red egg shaped fruit with golden-yellow stripes ....
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Update ! for 2017 ...

the ornamental Tomato foliage group pursuit has stabilized for me

I like having a grouping of a Fuzzy Wuzzy , Bonte Tigrette ,Silvery Fir , and maybe a Stick

ALL ARE CONTAINER FRIENDLY ...and together the foliage has striking contrasts ....

Angora leaves ...next to yellow foliage ...and Fern leaves and and the crinkle pomp poms of stick (Fruit of Fuzzy wuzzy and Bonte Tigerette is striped as well !).

Most pleasing little display possible for small decks etc.
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